one would be eight to big to fail type attacks. it's your assets are over a threshold level, you pay a separate tax. one can limit interest deductibility. the first thing to realize is that financial institutions are highly specialized and understanding them is extremely difficult. regulatory apparatuses our best. but does not mean we have succeeded in the past, but it also does not mean we should try it tax instruments in a very complex setting with highly responsive taxpayers and a lot of this additional detail. that is why i am very skeptical of the tax estimate to address financial leverage. not because it is not a problem, but because there are better ways to do it. i understand there has been a failure to do it. there is little evidence in my mind that these kinds of taxes or a representation of the vengeance many of us feel. >> financial planners plan all around any kind of financial regulations. they are clever. >> indeed they are. >> they are driven to find a product that will find the greatest return. >> they will do more